I’ve pointed out before that I think that the majority of gun control is elitism. Nowadays the gun grabbers hasten to tell you that “law abiding people have nothing to fear,” but then they propose complicated rules and certification schemes that will price the poorer of us out of the self defense market entirely. “Safe Storage” is another such scheme. The ultimate in “safe storage” would be requiring you to store your gun off site either with the police or at a gun club. That’s what you have to do in some countries. The next best (from their point of view) is locked, disassembled, and unloaded. This is what was required in DC until Heller struck down both the ban on new guns and also the ban on functional guns. Now they are turning to “child access prevention” laws. Cause anything’s Constitutional if it’s “for the children.”
Our opponents would like to make the use of guns as difficult and expensive as possible. For them, the fact that the poorer citizens will not be able to afford a gun and all the legally mandated, permits, training, and storage containers, is not a bug, it’s a feature. They cling to the false belief that gun owners are stupid low class rednecks. If they can restrict gun ownership to the “right sort,” then problem solved. The right sort knows better than to own a gun, and the wrong sort needs to be ruled over. This is why I get so bent out of shape when someone who should be on our side repeats such foolishness.
Umm, no. Unless you leave your gun lying in the middle of your lawn, who cares how you store it? When called out on it, he doubles down.
I wish I had the kind of money to have a system like that. I wish I had enough guns to warrant having multiple lockboxes. I wish I had a pony.
I make decent money. There are a lot of people who live on far less. If I can’t afford this system, none of the rest can either. So climb down off your high horse. Everyone deserves access to the best self defense tool available, the firearm. If all someone can afford is a cheap used revolver stored in his sock drawer, I’m ok with that.
Agreed, and I don't care how 'poorly' secured your firearms are, it's the fault of the thief for stealing it, not you for not securing it better. I think people take security too far and act like all of the burden is on you to nail down your possessions, when other people shouldn't be lurking around taking other people's things to begin with.
ReplyDeleteI'm not saying it's a bad idea to get a safe or lock your doors, but why don't they blame the criminals for a change.
My wife and family are a lot more valuable than my firearms.
ReplyDeleteShould I store them in a safe -- to keep them protected from criminals who break into my house?
The problem with the requirement of "proper" storage is that there is no rational point to draw the line before Fort-Knoxx-style security - after all, if a criminal is able to break into your home, bypass your security system, extract your firearms from whatever they were being contained in, and so on, so forth, obviously your security was not good enough, was it? Obviously you are not "responsible" enough to have firearms, so you should be forced to give them to the police department for... "safe storage"... and you can check them out whenever you want to go to the range.
ReplyDeleteAs with all subjective definitions, one level of scrutiny is no more or less valid than any other, and you know what levle the anti-rights nuts will want.
Robert Farago is nothing more than a modern Fudd, and a particularly disgusting one at that, given he vociferously and enthusiastically applies the "she had it coming" mentality to firearm owners - after all, if that girl had not had such a short dress, maybe she would not have been raped!
@Bob: well, you know it isn't the criminal's fault if your family is so unsecured that he can harm them.
ReplyDeleteMagical thinking is so cute.
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I think everybody should be wary of negligence. You don't leave a loaded gun on a coffee table when there's small kids about, or keeping excess antifreeze in an old Margarita mix bottle in your liquor cabinet when you have social gathering.
ReplyDeleteBut to claim anybody but a criminal is responsible when they break and enter and steal is stupid.
As for "On Our Side", TTAG has NEVER been on our side, any more than a guy who says he has no problem with black people, but has a fit when a black family moves in on his street isn't a racist.
They are anti-gun the same way the hunters and clay shooters were when they helped push the AWB through.
So, I should have a wall or floor safe bolted to structural support that can't be "easily" moved? Yeah, I'm sure my landlord would agree, and if I move would not charge me for repairs.
ReplyDeleteImagine if we had laws like this for free speech. Would we still call it free speech?
ReplyDeleteAnd if your house floor won't support the weight of the kind of safe the boobs decide is 'appropriate, safe' storage, you'll have to pay to reinforce the floor or not be allowed to own guns?
ReplyDeleteThis is the biggest load of crap I've read on the net in quite a while, and let's face it the competition is fierce.
ReplyDeleteEvery gun owner I know has a gun safe except for one idiot who I wouldn't trust even to watch my dog. One day when he sent me looking for something I found a loaded revolver under his bed -- in a house with a young child.
I have several pistols and long guns, all stored in safes. Fingertip cypher locks open the door in less than a second. The price of the pistol safe was a small fraction of the cost of the pistols it holds.
No, the kids will never get the combo. Yes, a thief can make off with the pistol safe, but he can't use the contents on my family unless he goes elsewhere to drill the safe and returns.
Honestly, people, this is *pathetic*. How do you think kids get firearms to elementary schools? Where do you think kids get their hands on guns for accidental shootings? If you can afford firearms, you can afford a purpose-built gun safe.
Are you planning on sending me the money? The PayPal button is above, on the right.
DeleteWhen you demand that poor people buy a "purpose built safe" to go with their $200 gun, then you are demanding that they spend money that they don't have.
As for your gun collection, who cares? I'm not interested in how rich you are. Nor is anyone else.