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Thursday, October 7, 2010

Laws of North Carolina that need to change, Part 3 – No guns in restaurants



North Carolina prohibits the possession of a firearm inside any establishment that has a license to serve alcohol for on premises consumption.  Wholly aside from the question of how a State gets the power to regulate behavior on private property, this is a supremely stupid law. Want to know how I know?

Luigi's Restaurant
 
I didn’t learn about the Luigi’s shooting on TV like most people, I learned about it by telephone. I was a Paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne then. One of my three closest friends at the time, Jeff, told me.
“He’s gone,” he said
Who?
“Wes. He’s gone.”
His voice told me he was describing a bad dream that he couldn’t wake up from. You know those dreams, something terrible is about to attack you, but in the nick of time you realize that it is a dream, so you wake up only to find the dream has followed you. So you “wake up” again. And again. And again, but you never really actually wake up. That’s how his voice sounded. It wasn’t a dream.

Wes and I weren’t friends, but his girlfriend and Jeff were buddies. The three had gone to Luigi’s the night before to get dinner and were rudely interrupted by a wacko with a shotgun. Jeff said that his first clue that there was a problem was when his female friend’s throat exploded with blood. The same shotgun blast peppered the back of Jeff’s head. I think he still has the two pellets in his scalp. Thank God it was only birdshot.

The female friend ended up getting shot twice, once in the throat and once more in the hip. Jeff sat cross legged on the floor with her head on his knee, using his Army first aid training (he was a mechanic, not a medic) to keep her airway open. Airway, Breathing, Circulation, they drilled into us in those days. Lacking even a pocketknife with which to fight back, Jeff did the only thing he could do, keep his friend alive. Did I mention that she was pregnant with Wes’s child?

Two lives depended on Jeff, and all he could do was keep the airway clear and try to keep her from bleeding out until help arrived. It was a long time coming. Jeff said it took forever. It took too long for Wes.  During one of his crossings of the restaurant, the gunman passed them. Wes looked at him and asked him “Why?” the answer came from a 12 gauge shotgun. Wes was dead before he landed on Jeff’s other knee. Not that death prevented his blood and brains from running all over Jeff’s pants.

The story ends, like every other mass shooting ends, because of the bullet of an armed person. You see, “active shooters” as they are called today, stop killing either when they get shot by someone else, or, seeing themselves trapped by armed people, turn the gun on themselves. Jeff vividly recalled for me sitting on the floor with his back to the gunman, dead friend on one knee and pregnant friend on the other knee, seeing the cop charging in shooting over Jeff’s head. From start to finish the ordeal lasted 20 minutes.

When I asked Jeff last year what he would have done if he had a gun he said “I’d have drilled that bastard like a he was a two-by-four. “ Instead, disarmed by US Army policy, and by the North Carolina’s lack of Concealed Carry licenses, he spent the longest 20 minutes of his life clearing his friend’s airway and trying not to look at her boyfriend, dead on his other knee. The hospital helpfully sterilized his pants for him and offered to give them back, complete with bloodstains.

If you want to know what the State thinks of you, remember Jeff, or Wes. Either one had plenty of time to make the shot that would have cut the rampage short. The State told them, and every other person in the restaurant, that their lives were expendable. Today the law has changed. Sorta. NC issues “Concealed Handgun Permits” on a Shall Issue basis. But the same law that made licenses “shall issue” also made it illegal to carry in a restaurant that serves so much as a beer. Next time you sit down to eat at Applebees, think about that. You can order a beer (or a martini) so therefore you must be unarmed. Do you think that the next mass murderer knows that? If you were a mass murderer, where would you go to commit your atrocity? To the shooting range... or Olive Garden?

 Jeff will always be a hero to me. He kept his head, remembered his training and saved two lives, his own and his pregnant friend’s. He saved three if you count the baby. I do. He was put in an impossible position that day, unarmed and without allies deep in enemy territory. Somewhere between the front door and the salad bar he took a stand by sitting down. I’d guarantee that he’d trade everything he has achieved from that day to this to be put back there this moment with a pistol in his hand. And I’d  sell everything I own and give him the money if he found a working time machine on EBay. Wes’s child has no father. North Carolina is perfectly happy to let it all happen again.

15 comments:

  1. Wow sobering story. She won't publish it, but you should drop this link in Joan's comments.

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  2. My plan is to work hard to change the law and then gloat. It will make her sad. I think it is fine for her to decide to be unarmed and unprotected but I am pretty offended that she wants to make that decision for me and my wife.

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  3. I have posted a link at http://carolinashootersforum.com/showthread.php?p=499093#post499093

    Come on over and join the discussion :-D

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  4. And so, those of us in NC can choose to obey the law, or be safe. Hell of a choice.

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  5. Two points: Have to think there are more alcohol induced bar brawls (especially in NC) than there are wackos ready to massacre. Add guns to those brawls and you'll see even more carnage.
    #2: The episode Sean describes STARTED with a gun, which was probably NOT handmade and was obtained legally at K-Mart by an unstable individual who probably never it used it for hunting or home protection.
    Contrary to Sean's view, a life could have been saved with STRICTER gun laws.

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    1. @ANON Also what you DON'T realize is that Concealed Carry Handguns permit holders are NOT supposed to have ANY alcohol in their system,PERIOD. No legal limit...none PERIOD. Every CCH permit holder I know, will not jeopardize losing their permit by drinking. And what difference does it make how the perp obtained the shotgun? Whether it was purchased or stolen or bought illegally, he still did the shooting.

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  6. @Anon: Do you have any data to back up your claim that alcohol induced brawls will escalate in the presence of lawful gun owners carrying? Here's a hint, Pennsylvania doesn't even have a law against getting drunk in a bar while carrying. Is that a drunken shootout mecca?

    Which "stricter" gun laws would have prevented this lunatic from taking a shotgun in and murdering lots of people? He obviously didn't give a crap about the law against murdering people.

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  7. I think I would have taken the hospital up on it's offer to have my pants decontaminated, and then every time I went somewhere that I was required by law to be disarmed I would have worn them.

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  8. That sounds funny now, but I assure you that my friend was still in shock when they asked him if he wanted the bloody pants back. He was in shock for a few weeks, and wasn't "right" for a long time.

    I'd pay good money to have those pants now. I'd take them to the NCGA and wave then at the anti-gun reps and senators and ask them "Is this is what you want my pants to look like?"

    It's all funny now. It was horrific at the time.

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  9. I didn't mean it to be funny. I'm sure your friend was horrified, and I'm sure I would have been also, but on further reflection I would have worn them to remind myself and everyone around me of the price that we pay for trading essential liberty for a false sense of security.
    Thank you for your service, by the way.

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  10. This is an old post, but its still relevant. This law NEEDS to be changed. Everyone that carries concealed in NC should contact your congress person to get this taken off of our books.

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  11. @Matt: You aren't kidding. This is the biggest pain in my rear end when it comes to day to day carry. HB111 is currently in the Senate Judiciary II Committee. We need to push them for to get it passed during the short session this year.

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  12. Even in MN we're allowed to carry into a bar/restaurant, even have A drink...the legal limit for carry permit holders is .04 while carrying.

    When I used to travel to NC for work, my PA non-res permit covered my carrying -- but I thought it bizarre that it had to stay in the car when I went in to eat.

    Pass HB111 in NC!!

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  13. Not only does the law render you helpless in restaurants, but it also makes it all-the-more likely that your firearm will fall into criminal hands by forcing you to leave it in your car where 75% of all firearms thefts occur. My firearm is much safer in my Crossbreed Supertuck IWB on my person than in the glove compartment of my car.

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  14. @Anon 10:38AM: You are right. We need to get this law changed, because I'd hate to think that one of us might get killed or injured in a restaurant while our guns were locked up safely outside.

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